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Yes it does. The problem is that bosses str and ap only accounts for like 5-10% of the dmg they do

@@Brat2513 negligible

and if your opponent uses engineering as well... it made little to no difference. It has to come from the class toolkit.

I don't think the stats on the pieces are correct yet, as they aren't finalized

@@DeeceTV i hope they change the stats to useful ones

I know right, it's about dam time xD, I think they will be eating very gooood in P4

Recount is what is used here and works fine on the PTR!

I'm so happy now that prot is looking like it's gonna be a real spec again though, probably not until the 6pc T1 but it'll be nice to see prots going into the prot tree again!

@@DeeceTV I happy too, but I think they are taking out too much dmg, for prot as for retri. Warriors already pumping 3K as tanks, do they get any nerfs ?

Yeah they should nerf all tank damage from every spec, no tank should be consistently over pure DPS specs

The ret rotation going into P4 before getting 6pc T1 primarily looks to twist every auto, using a filler inbetween autos (CS/DS/Exo) and judge every 3rd twist for a "judge twist" to get 2 judgements off. With this playstyle there is no macro that can be made that'll be one button, although I wouldn't recommend using a 1 button macro, if you really wanted to, there was a wotlk one button cast sequence macro that you could find which will just cycle through the next available spell but it would need to be slightly altered because it doesn't account for classic seal and judgements

@@DeeceTV seal twisting is so annoying. id rather the exorcism build was still good. At least something happens when you press buttons. seals feel like raptor strike and heroic strike in that you have to wait for auto attacks which is annoying.

It makes a lot of sense, but is mostly ret paladin related I think. You still gain 10% 1h dmg from prot tree, so it's not as much of a nerf, and prot pala threat is going to increase tremendously with how well we will scale with block value (200% to holy shield damage, 30% to blessing of sanctuary damage and of course shield of the righteous as well). It felt weird that the best strategy for ret paladins as soon as you had 2 or more targets was to put on a 1hander and use HotR, but that is not going to be the case anymore. I really hope that consecration and divine storm is going to be enough for ret paladins to not fall behind on cleave and aoe fights, but I have my doubts. Would have loved to see HotR be usable with 2handers as well.

It was honestly the right choice to make because at the end of the day, a tanks job isn't to do DPS, it's to keep threat and stay alive. This fixes the part where they we're doing too much damage without changing their threat output and also it fixes the annoyance for rets to have to do stupid shit to stay competitive in cleave. Plus when it comes to aoe in the future when tanks get the 6pc T1, they'll probably do more damage than HoTR would ever do anyway

​@@DeeceTV Have you seen Gladiator spec DPS in Sunken Temple? I want Retribution to do well. Instead of asking to nerf Hammer of the Righteous (HoTR), you Retribution guys should ask for a buff to Divine Storm. The DPS that Protection was doing wasn't just because of HoTR but also due to Exorcism procs. PvE is not the only part of the game. Now the damage of HoTR in PvP is absurd, hitting for 150 damage, while we have Shamans throwing fire bolts from 40 yards away that hit for 2500.It's sad and totally unfair to prot pallies that only retribution paladins asked for nerf to HoTR.

@@valorf666 But you are prot paladin, you are not supposed to have fun. kekw

Glad you enjoy it! :D

I was honestly kind of surprised that improved sanc wasn’t changed in any way, like a skill book of some sorts

The ptr runes are so undercooked in general. If they released the phase with these runes as is this would be very troubling

It’s definitely been a weird one for paladin since phase 2

The thing is that they aren't touching core talents so paladin is fundamentaly broken and incomplete . Their runes aren't improving the class. They are making it work.

Going to be interesting to find out!

They've already said activating a third seal will clear all current seals so only two seals allowed

Why? Do you mean SoD phases or do you mean like "season" of discovery season?

The lower DPS is fine on my side it's a threat tool now our biggest DPS comes from blocking with the new HS the change from 4 to 2 sucks the most

@@zerodas3293 Dude it hits for 152 dmg with 60 lvl gear, it was hitting for 300 dmg why is that a problem? We have shamans that throw fire bolts from 40 yards that hit for 3k but HoTR was a problem? I am pvp player don't care about the threat compensation

@@valorf666 All we asked was Divine Steed and Exo being base ability, not nerfing art of war to the ground and Hammer ..

I agree, they’ve been okay in pvp as they always have been in classic but in PVE they had like 1-2 weeks in P2 of being strong. Outside of those 1-2 weeks they’ve been the most underperforming and neglected (excluding arcane damage mage for reasons ofc)

@@DeeceTV and by the way I don't mean that others should get nerfed, I love all those good changes I just want them to hear spriest players a bit often. Any way awesome video....

I made a video a few weeks ago about runes that need a rework and when looking into it, I noticed rogue has either really good runes or really bad runes and quite a lot of bad ones at that, so I agree there could of been more done. Fan of knives however I’ve saw mostly positive reactions too though

Bro the reason why it's the 6pc set bonus wee you can triple seal twist into triple judgment that's a fucking nuke

@@zerodas3293 i am talking about rune...

@@Valkemen I do know what you were talking about and gave you the reason why they took holy shock and Exo Out of the Vengeance Rotation. You do mean the Cloak rune right?

@@zerodas3293 yeah, now I understood

@@zerodas3293wait what? theres no way they allow a third seal to be twisted normally on top of the 6sec ez twist tier bonus bs. And even if you could you can’t double judge normally twisting so how would you be able to triple judge? Edit: reck bombing someone with 3 seals would be broken.

Kinda crazy they got it right!

Justice!

Yeah, I thought that rune 100% would be altered to either a skill book or reworked, especially as it’s snapshottable so it may aswell be a skill book!

@@DeeceTV nope it's not snapshotable anymore they did remove that at least

I get what ya saying, though there will be atleast 6 months of 60 end-game at the minimum really because that'd make 1 whole year, although I personally think it'll be more along the lines of 18 months long in total making P4 potentially up to 1 year long. It'll most likely depend on the reception of phase 4 and if it revives the playerbase though for that to happen

​@DeeceTV ya 6 months isn't long enough to keep alot of players imo

Ahh dude it'll be cool, the old raids we're easy but definitely fun and I think you'll enjoy them, they had a whole different vibe as 40 player though which I don't think 20 man will quite re-create but it should still be a blast!

Yeah for sure totally get your point! If any level of difficulty is what is wanted then vanilla isn't the place. I would say though definitely check out P4 when it comes, it could be pleasantly surprising, who knows what they might cook up!

I agree, also kinda looking forward to it

Yeah heard similar opinions over phase 3 about the raid sizes, ST having too much trash and not being as alt friendly. Hopefully the PTR looks good though and it can start to bring momentum

Suffer to get rank up?what r u talking dude,u want instant rank,instant gear,instant exalted rep?go play retail shit and stay in org and wait for que nab

but they want you to pick which version you want to play... btw we are pushing SoD phase 4 back until you are all bored with cata and the other garbage we made... cause we have to "give cata time to breathe" - Blizzard.... NO Microsoft!!!

True, it should definitely be more fulfilling at end-game, as we've already covered 6 months and as it's only seasonal it won't last years so there will be the entirety of the usual level 60 vanilla content plus whatever new content there is all in a short period of time which hopefully gives us plenty to do!

@@DeeceTV they going to mass release it all... a few weeks apart... make us wait in the saddest part of the game for MONTHS then rush through the content we all have been waiting for in a few weeks

Hoping for it to be a banger!

Are you currently only playing Era? I haven't touched Era in a while, is the playerbase really starting to grow alot more there now?

Fuck yeah! Market house prices are still weird on PvP but zones like winterspring, eastern plagueland, silithus, felwood etc have 10-15 60s on ally generally any time

Totally agree, it's going to be a big few weeks for SoD!